The July 31st, 2021 episode of the Security, Cryptography, Whatever podcast was the great “roll your own crypto”1 debate between Thomas Ptacek and Filippo Valsorda, moderated by Deirdre Connolly, with additional commentary provided by me. Loosely, Filippo was arguing that the mantra of “don’t roll your own crypto” has been ineffective and mostly serves as a form of gatekeeping in which the people the phrase is targeted at don’t listen to it anyway.