So, if that awake space, that Gnostic, boundlessness, is apparent, then come to an even deeper sense of presence in that. It's not a thought, it's not a feeling, it's not a sight or a sound, it's not a special experience. It's just the space of experience itself, the awake space itself. There's no thought that can get at that. There's no way of looking that gets at that. It is the looking. If you try to be the one finding it, the one looking at it, that's just some thought and feeling pretend...