Listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and all major podcast apps. --- Johanna Mayer: Hey, Amanda. Amanda McGowan: Hey, Johanna. What’s up? Johanna: I want to start by showing you this photo. First, maybe just describe the photo to me. Amanda: Yeah. Okay. So we are standing behind like maybe a waist high glass barrier. And beyond that, there’s like a very large white room. The walls are empty. It’s white, high ceilings. And it looks like there’s a thick kind of layer of ... ...
