Be it as a user or a programmer I can't stand android/ios or anything that runs on a phone. The lack of keyboard, small screen, retarded cpu, horrible ecosystem android/ios is just too much. In a way i'm happy the "mobile craze of 2010-2020" is long gone (followed by the blockchain era and these days the ai era...thank god) but even so people continue to use java and make angry birds, i guess? I so miss the linux vs windows years when you only had nokia 3310 and people used to play "snake", ...