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Software Defined Interviews Episode 30: Patrick Debois on using serverless for a year and half, defining DevOps vs. SRE vs. design, and meatware over tools
https://www.softwaredefinedinterviews.com/30
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At DevOpsDays Austin, 2017, [Barton George](https://twitter.com/barton808) and [I](https://twitter.com/cote) talk with [Patrick Debois](https://twitter.com/patrickdebois).
