[Cazares] and I will sit down together and discuss, “Where do we want to go with this? Where’s the concept going? Where’s the sound going? What do we want to experiment with”? It takes maturity and experience to understand this. But it is difficult, and we’ve failed a couple of times. Digimortal was a classic example of bending down to what the label wanted and what the management wanted. After the Obsolete record, our sound was big and huge and it was quite unique. At that moment, ...